Sunday, September 30, 2012

STILL NO WHITE SMOKE

The panel choosing the next archbishop of Canterbury is rumoured to be deadlocked after meeting in secrecy for three days last week.

The lack of a clear winner so far has led to speculation that the original frontrunner, the archbishop of York, John Sentamu, has divided the Crown Nominations Commission, and that he may even be out of the race.

Reports indicated that the 16-strong panel may also have ruled out the bishop of London, the Rt Rev Richard Chartres.

It is understood the panel will be holding a further session, indicating it has been unable to agree on a candidate.
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Other frontrunners in contention are the bishop of Durham, Justin Welby, and the bishop of Norwich, Graham James.
Thinking Anglicans has many more links to articles on the Crown Nominations Commission's efforts to complete the task of choosing the next Archbishop of Canterbury.

From the comments at Thinking Anglicans;
If stalemate or deadlock really has resulted at the last meeting of the CNC - then why not have a period of interregnum in order to reflect thoughtfully and prayerfully on who should succeed the saintly Rowan? After all - in a bid to economise many dioceses seems to positively encourage long interregnums in parishes - often of two years or more - in order to save on stipends. That is unless the benefice becomes a "House for Duty" parish - as the number of these former livings seem to grow by the week in the advert columns of the Church Times. Now, there's a thought - why not a "Palace (or two) for Duty" for the next ABC?
Heh heh.  

20 comments:

  1. "Saintly Rowan?"

    Really?!

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    1. Fine English irony is on splendid display in the entire comment, Tracie.

      "Palace (or two) for Duty" for the next ABC?

      That's very good, too.

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    2. Yes, and in jolly old England, "public" schools are the private academies of the elite and "Gov'nor" is not an elected position ... too bad His Mittness's grandfather didn't "escape" to the Midlands - they'd likely have been right at home and not a bother to us :-)

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    3. Yes, what a pity, Genette. The Midlands did not permit polygamy, so that was not an option for Mitt's great-grandfather. Then there was the Mexican war that sent the family back to the US, where Mitt's father's family was "on relief" for a spell.

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    4. I hope, and much, much more, that ¨saintly Rowan¨ keeps his mitts (not to be confused with romney) off the CNC...I can´t help but think that this not-so-above-board man is quite used to back corridor telephone calls (God only knows if he´s started texting) and barking whispered orders in darkened places while making deals (York will no doubt be working the bathrooms again)...what can we do when the bejeweled hands are quicker than the short-sighted eye? It´s a shame, but, we´ve already know the pushy nature of the men of England with Archbishop attached to their names.

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    5. Len, I would not wish for either Rowan or Sentamu to be a major influence on the choice.

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  2. I thought it was his grandfather...

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    1. Renz, check it out. I could be mistaken.

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    2. There's some question about whether Romney's grandfather was a polygamist. There's no doubt that his great-grandfather was (as was Obama's).

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    3. Thanks, Paul. I knew Romney's great-grandfather was a polygamist, but I had not heard that his grandfather was.

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  3. I am heartened that the stalemate is over Sentamu. It just goes to show you that there are still some people with backbone around. I expect it will be Welby, after some jousting. If not, then look for a compromise candidate not yet mentioned. James obviously doesn't want it--he's said as much. I think that Sentamu's time has passed. Those on this Commission who were in on the selection of the current Bishop of Southwark are dead set against him.

    If the stalemate continues, the Prime Minister can select someone of his own choice to forward to the Queen, I understand (this is how things were done up until Coggan). I expect that he'll take ++Rowan's (and others') advice before doing so, if it's necessary. That would be quite interesting. Welby, having a similar background to the PM, might be in with a chance then if stalemate continues.

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    1. Chris, I think Sentamu as ABC would be sounding the death knell for the church. If I were a betting person, I'd put my money on Welby as a compromise candidate, but what do I know?

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  4. +Jones of Liverpool...I´ll put my Quetzales on him.

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    1. (and a few hundred Mexican Pesos too)

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    2. I'd take you on, Len, but you may be right.

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    3. Ah you sweetened the pot. Do you have inside information?

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  5. Nope, just the thickness of Maya mystery operating around me with a heavy fog in the evening air...actually, I´m trying to make the best of a very unpleasant reality--the English Archbishops are unfortunately very conniving men (repeatedly displayed) and I pray that they don´t have their/any way in the selecting of the new ABC. I don´t trust either of them. WE desperately need a honorable man who doesn´t indulge himself IN himself (and cowardliness)...I won´t pretend we´ve not been through a horrible 10 year period of embarrassing and pridefilled leadership at Lambeth Palace...we ache from the nonsense.

    I also won´t try and save face, for the poor stewardship at the Church of England as they now have a chance to do that for themselves. All spokes lead to the hub...let´s check the hub.

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    1. the English Archbishops are unfortunately very conniving men (repeatedly displayed) and I pray that they don´t have their/any way in the selecting of the new ABC.

      Sad, but true.

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  6. Let me remind y'all of one thing - +Rowan was not a Church of England Bishop (nor yet I think even a member) when he became ABC. He was the head of the Church in Wales - separate province, entirely different legal status. If the deadlock goes on - heck, we might have to buy in an Episcopalian!

    Welby is (by upbringing and background at least) one of the 1%. He also has ties to HTB (Holy Trinity Brompton - the church that conduited the so-say Toronto Blessing into the UK and launched the Alpha course (the theological equivalent of Ikea furniture) onto us).

    Put like that he honestly doesn't sound like your type, Grandmere (he's certainly no +Alan). I'd want to see a lot more of what he does as a bishop before I'd give him the top job.

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    1. Hang on, James, I'm not advocating for Welby. Before Rowan, it didn't matter to us in the Episcopal Church who was chosen as ABC, but Rowan with his obvious disdain of TEC and his attempts to interfere in our governance changed all that. Of course, I would have wanted a good ABC for the sake of our sisters and brothers in England, but other than that, whoever was chosen would have made little difference to us.

      After the present difficulty of the CNC in settling on a candidate, the Church of England may give further thought to having an election for the position of ABC. The job may well be impossible, and I don't see why, at this point, the primus inter pares of the Anglican Communion always has to be the Archbishop of Canterbury.

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