tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post2183018128045487534..comments2024-03-22T12:57:57.273-05:00Comments on WOUNDED BIRD: TRY LEADING BY EXAMPLEJune Butlerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-10863493126686782352011-05-27T19:15:33.578-05:002011-05-27T19:15:33.578-05:00Amen to that Grandmère!Amen to that Grandmère!Wadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11385254585966905674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-70859324386847350692011-05-27T15:26:23.064-05:002011-05-27T15:26:23.064-05:00Rowan Who would require some less influential indi...<i>Rowan Who would require some less influential individual crawl over the broken glass.</i><br /><br />Wade, yes, from a crucified place. A reminder to myself that the powers in TEC are not without sin,June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-69190682722051824492011-05-27T15:22:23.392-05:002011-05-27T15:22:23.392-05:00Grandmère, regarding the Peter Carrell comments;
...Grandmère, regarding the Peter Carrell comments;<br /><br /><i> "A few years back a bishop close to ++Rowan told an audience I was part of that ++Rowan would crawl over broken glass for the unity of the church. Since then I have understood everything ++Rowan has done through that lens." </i><br /><br />From what we've seen of him, it seems to me far more likely that Rowan Who would require some less influential individual crawl over the broken glass.Wadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11385254585966905674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-11378404691724059762011-05-27T11:20:22.398-05:002011-05-27T11:20:22.398-05:00Lindy, I'm sad about this mess, too, but I'...Lindy, I'm sad about this mess, too, but I'm glad the story is out in the open.<br /><br />Transparency, transparency, transparency. Thank you, Colin Slee.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-76261129230605028902011-05-27T08:41:22.829-05:002011-05-27T08:41:22.829-05:00More sections of the memo have been revealed since...More sections of the memo have been revealed since I posted, and the words are appalling and sickening to read.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-5148012563407180092011-05-27T06:17:22.093-05:002011-05-27T06:17:22.093-05:00This whole memo is a great argument for transparen...This whole memo is a great argument for transparency in decision making processes.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-35012612940614945282011-05-27T04:59:12.022-05:002011-05-27T04:59:12.022-05:00I wonder if there is anything we can do to help th...I wonder if there is anything we can do to help the faithful in the Church of England free themselves of this tyrant?Wadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11385254585966905674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-28035582749401947382011-05-27T02:38:12.076-05:002011-05-27T02:38:12.076-05:00I feel sad about this. On so many levels.I feel sad about this. On so many levels.Lindyhttp://lindysadventureblog.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-83016998143671318592011-05-26T18:02:53.754-05:002011-05-26T18:02:53.754-05:00And Rowan never once asked forgiveness of anyone i...And Rowan never once asked forgiveness of anyone in TEC, even after all the nasty things he said to us and about us.<br /><br />He sees TEC as a threat to the unity of the Anglican Communion, so he will never let up on us.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-34484339036570089872011-05-26T16:34:34.495-05:002011-05-26T16:34:34.495-05:00Power corrupting.
wv "chest"Power corrupting.<br /><br />wv "chest"Stan Firmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-49533296059202927662011-05-26T16:29:20.054-05:002011-05-26T16:29:20.054-05:00I notice that Rowan's conscience seems to have...I notice that Rowan's conscience seems to have developed a bit thicker skin, since then, Mimi. He certainly didn't seem to have any problem implicating Dean Slee as the culprit in the leaks.<br /><br />My contempt is boundless...Wormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-15690480402246245252011-05-26T16:15:29.589-05:002011-05-26T16:15:29.589-05:00Well, Rowan asked Jeffery John to stand down from ...Well, Rowan asked Jeffery John to stand down from his appointment to Reading, which was predictive. So the report goes, he immediately asked John's forgiveness. I suppose he knew he'd done his friend a wrong.<br /><br /><a href="http://anglicanfuture.blogspot.com/2011/05/whats-at-stake-with-anglican-covenant.html?showComment=1306387482297#c6585381182155090593" rel="nofollow">Peter Carrell</a> said in the comments at Preludium:<br /><br /><i>A few years back a bishop close to ++Rowan told an audience I was part of that ++Rowan would crawl over broken glass for the unity of the church. Since then I have understood everything ++Rowan has done through that lens.</i><br /><br />And that's perhaps a wise view to take.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-49975229249434034152011-05-26T16:05:23.685-05:002011-05-26T16:05:23.685-05:00I don't think you were unfair either, I was ju...I don't think you were unfair either, I was just rambling about the factors that may have led to his losing it.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-18985587566461239872011-05-26T15:21:03.903-05:002011-05-26T15:21:03.903-05:00Lapin, when you're caught between a rock and a...Lapin, when you're caught between a rock and a hard place, follow your conscience. I don't think I'm being unfair to Rowan.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-26231704174187005052011-05-26T15:17:47.564-05:002011-05-26T15:17:47.564-05:00In fairness to Rowan, I imagine that he has been i...In fairness to Rowan, I imagine that he has been informed by the Central African archbishops, ahead of time and in detail, exactly what will happen when and if the Anglican Church appoints an openly gay bishop. I think that the recent "Kenyan congregation" business and the transfer of "Bishop" Minns to London are preparatory rumblings. Williams was more likely in a blue funk panic at the prospect that these "little people" from Southwark were about to shatter the Communion than riding rough-shod on a personal anti-gay hobby-horse.<br /><br />Remember - irony of ironys - that Rowan was vetoed by Carey for Southwark because he was too pro-gay.<br /><br />Lucky for the archbishops that Holtham was also veto-able at that point, affording them a fig-leaf to protect themselves against the charge of discrimination.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-74778951354714554182011-05-26T14:21:00.919-05:002011-05-26T14:21:00.919-05:00Jim, ain't that the truth? I guess I'm na...Jim, ain't that the truth? I guess I'm naive, but the story is close to unbelievable. But I believe it, because St Colin said it. Some have said that Colin was a difficult man, but what saint is not difficult? He always favored the downtrodden and strove for justice and equality.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-10708723614813037532011-05-26T14:13:53.823-05:002011-05-26T14:13:53.823-05:00Rowan would rank as a dirty politician in Illinois...Rowan would rank as a dirty politician in Illinois and that is saying something.<br /><br />FWIW<br />jimBJimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-43150049418873213322011-05-26T14:03:16.936-05:002011-05-26T14:03:16.936-05:00Doxy, I've seen the whole sordid story. It...Doxy, I've seen the whole sordid story. It's disgusting.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-88008837696937944232011-05-26T13:21:59.739-05:002011-05-26T13:21:59.739-05:00Have you seen the whole thing, Mimi? It looks as i...Have you seen the whole thing, Mimi? It looks as if Rowan himself leaked the news to the press about the John+ and Holtham+ nominations and then tried to implicate Dean Slee as the culprit.<br /><br />Despicable.Wormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-32385020961383459002011-05-26T13:11:52.907-05:002011-05-26T13:11:52.907-05:00And also to see how the article affects Rowan'...And also to see how the article affects Rowan's demeanor, now that many know that he's a bully.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2174812066017196444.post-14189262840532611292011-05-26T12:57:55.477-05:002011-05-26T12:57:55.477-05:00Be interesting to see to what extent this incident...Be interesting to see to what extent this incident enhances the archbishops' authority in the forthcoming debates on women bishops and the Covenant.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.com