Wednesday, June 26, 2013

DOESN'T IT MAKE YOU WANT TO CRY?

Statement by Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York and Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco on the "U.S. Supreme Court decisions June 26 striking down part of the Defense of Marriage Act and refusing to rule on the merits of a challenge to California’s Proposition 8":
Today is a tragic day for marriage and our nation. The Supreme Court has dealt a profound injustice to the American people by striking down in part the federal Defense of Marriage Act. The Court got it wrong. The federal government ought to respect the truth that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, even where states fail to do so. The preservation of liberty and justice requires that all laws, federal and state, respect the truth, including the truth about marriage. It is also unfortunate that the Court did not take the opportunity to uphold California’s Proposition 8 but instead decided not to rule on the matter. The common good of all, especially our children, depends upon a society that strives to uphold the truth of marriage. Now is the time to redouble our efforts in witness to this truth. These decisions are part of a public debate of great consequence. The future of marriage and the well-being of our society hang in the balance.
Sad, just sad.  And I repeat my mantra: If marriage between a man and woman is foundational to the well-being of our society, why have not the cardinal and the archbishop done their duty by marrying and contributing to the good of society?  Oh yes, I know - celibacy.  Perhaps the church might reconsider the requirement for the well-being of society.

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  1. Good point! Well, at least society is still safe in 37 states. Phew.

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    1. A tragic day, which begins the complete disintegration of our society - not. That the ruling will bring joy to the lives of so many people who love each other, matters not at all.

      And that the two would even mention the common good of children without shame, is incredible.

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  2. The statement of the bishops is a really sick one. I am ashamed to say that I was once a Roman but immensely proud to say I am an Episcopalian.

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  3. These bishops fail to grasp that their corrupted theology is no justification for rewriting my country's civil polity. The quality of RC clerical education is evidently reaching a nadir.

    If they want a theocracy, let them move to Vatican City.

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    1. Paul (A.), it appears the RC hierarchy already think they're living in the United States of the Vatican.

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  4. Cry? It makes me want to throw up. ARRRGH! You have to wonder if anything about the message and life of Christ mean anything at all whatsoever to them. They are pontificating, self-righteous, and pathetic. (Rant off)

    Also proud to be an Episcopalian after enduring years of the tender mercies (not) of the Roman Catholic Church. (Not proud of the interim years I was an atheist.)

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    1. The authorities in the Roman Church live in their private bubbles, where little of the real world around them penetrates.

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    2. Nothing wrong with being an atheist, Bonnie. For some of us, going that route is what teaches us that God is "real" in our lives.

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    1. Yes, Tobias' commentary is always good.

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    2. Thanks, Paul, and Mimi. This one got my goat. And a few sheep, and perhaps a chicken or two.

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    3. The bishops in the Roman Church will move their fight to the states now. At the website of the US Conference of Catholic bishops is a "Prayer in Defense of Marriage", invoking the intercession of the Blessed Mother, whose marriage most certainly did not fit within the narrow limits of the definition of the Roman bishops.

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    4. They really don't get it, do they. Don't they know the Blessed Mother is on the side of those rejected? This is a real "be careful what you pray for" situation, for the prayer that marriages will be defended is being answered in the affirmative!

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    5. And I note that the prayer is actually directed to Joachim and Anna! (Perhaps they do recognize after all that the BVM is not part of the kind of marriage they find so "splendid"!!)

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    6. Tobias, I had not even noted the response to the prayer until you pointed it out. The prayer is so loaded with irony, that it made me laugh, even though the entire response of the bishops is not at all funny.

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  6. "Why have not the cardinal and the archbishop done their duty to society . . . ?"

    THANK YOU! HELLO? What's wrong with this screwy picture?

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  7. Not cry ... just see that their words once again betray their true selves, desperate to maintain their own privileged positions, to keep the carefully constructed lies of dominion and deference and delusions of God's preference for patriarchy and preference for all things male over all the rest of us ... their "social order" is really about the dictatorship of a few men telling everyone else how to live based on an extremely narrow view of "right" that is not supported by actual scripture (see history, the panic of "the church" about the laity being able to read the texts for themselves and see nothing justifying all the trappings of grandeur so loved by the "princes" of the church) ... the powerful will not give up their advantages, assumptions or presumptions easily ... those will have to be pried out of their cold dead hands, a la Charlton Heston and his gun ... and yes, I'm pretty sure the gun was his substitute for real manhood, just as the costumes of these men are their substitutes for genuine faith in Christ who only taught love for all, not privilege for a few.

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    1. Delusional is the word. Jesus wouldn't be a good Roman Catholic today.

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  8. I'd be interested in reading their statement on the gutting of the VRA. Oh wait, there wasn't one. It's only about sex with these people.

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    1. Sex and control. The rightwingers today are all moaning about "five men in black robes" making decisions for all the millions of Americans . . . but there was none of that whining when the VRA decision came down, was there? Oh that was just dandy, a fine and lofty judgment.

      Right.

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    2. In a quick search, I could not find a statement from the RC bishops on the Voting Right Act decision. I assume they are rather preoccupied with sex at the moment.

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    3. They are always preoccupied with sex, sex, sex. Them and the rightwing protestants too.

      There's something very unhealthy about that, don't you think?

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  9. As my mom used to say, I'd like to play the Popoid American hierarchy "the World's Saddest Song on the World's Smallest Violin" (there's a gesture, too, where you use your index finger as a bow, across your thumb as violin). My mom had another one for these guys (!): in fake Spanish accent, she would say "Pobrecitos!" [I get a lot of my snark from my mom, or couldn't you tell? ;-/]

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    1. JCF, your mom was a smart woman. "Pobrecitos!" I'm doing the little violin gestures, too.

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