Bath and Wells Against
Bishops For: 0, Against: 1, Abstained: 1
Clergy For: 17, Against: 22, Abstained: 1
Laity For: 18, Against: 23, Abstained: 1
Carlisle For
Bishops For: 2, Against: 0, Abstained: 0
Clergy For: 19, Against: 13, Abstained: 2
Laity For: 33, Against: 17, Abstained: 0
Coventry For
Bishops For: 2, Against: 0, Abstained: 0
Clergy For: 22, Against: 7, Abstained: 0
Laity For: 26, Against: 2, Abstained:
Ripon and Leeds Against
Bishops For: 2, Against: 0, Abstained: 0
Clergy For: 12, Against: 22, Abstained: -
Laity For: 8, Against: 17, Abstained: -
Southwark Against
Bishops For: 1, Against: 0, Abstained: 1
Clergy For: 10, Against: 27, Abstained: 2
Laity For: 21, Against: 32, Abstained: 0
Worcester Against
Bishops For: 2, Against: 0, Abstained: 0
Clergy For: 5, Against: 19, Abstained: -
Laity For: 6, Against: 22, Abstained: -
Summary
Dioceses for the Covenant to date: 10
Dioceses against the Covenant to date: 17
therefore:
For the Covenant to succeed 13 more dioceses must vote in favour
For the Covenant to fail 5 more dioceses must vote against
There are 17 dioceses yet to vote.
Dioceses voting next Saturday:
Norwich
Liverpool
St Albans
Chester
Ely
Results copied directly from Paul Basgshaw at Not the Same Stream.
The numbers are better than I hoped for. I would have considered 3 for and 3 against a good day. No proponent of the covenant can now say that there is a consensus favoring the document in the Church of England. And it's plain to see the bishops are either well out of touch with their flocks or extremely loyal to the Archbishop of Canterbury. Only in Bath and Wells and Southwark did bishops stand apart from Canterbury.
UPDATE: Alan Perry does the math for us at Comprehensive Unity.
Across all 27 dioceses, the votes by houses look like this:
Bishops: 82.0% for, 10.0% against, 8.0% abstentionsComparing against last week's figures, one can see that support is dropping in all houses, opposition is growing, and confidence is growing (judging by the declining number of abstentions) except in the House of Bishops.
Clergy: 44.6% for, 50.8% against, 4.7% abstentions
Laity: 50.1% for, 45.2% against, 4.7% abstentions
Amazing to me that the Rowan/Fulcrum offensive led to this train-wreck. Six "no" votes needed to derail the Covenant and eleven dioceses set to vote over the next two weekends. We may well know the outcome before the end of the month.
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU! for not using the new, exciting Google word verification.
The outcome today is amazing to me. Folks in England are working very hard to get more balanced material to the members of synods, and NACC has been greatly helpful, too. In the last couple of days, I've had visitors even to my blog from all the dioceses that voted today.
ReplyDeleteLapin, Blogger's spam filter works quite well. I have not had a spam comment come through yet, and not one legitimate comment has been filtered out. I don't understand why more bloggers don't at least give it a try without the fuzzy letters, which drive me mad.
Incidentally, Malcolm at Simple Massing Priest has a superb new post.
ReplyDeleteYes, I just left a comment there. Honestly, the arguments from the pro-covenant side are so very lame that it's a wonder they convince anyone.
ReplyDeleteIn Southwark it was the Suffragan Bishop of Kingston who was not in favour of the Covenant, and he abstained rather than vote against.
ReplyDeleteThe tenor of the debate was quite civilised, and there was a balance of speakers for and against. However, the applause for the "against" speakers was quite a bit louder than that after the "for" speakers. That's when I knew that the proposition was inevitably lost.
Several of the speakers talked about being disloyal to Rowan Williams by voting against, and I couldn't help thinking that Rowan actually made a rod for his own back with the Covenant, as now, if it dies in this quinquennium, he'll retire with the distinct odour of failure about him. And it won't be anyone's fault except his own.
Thanks for filling us in on Southwark, Chris.
ReplyDeleteRowan staked everything on rushing the covenant through the CofE. He did not have to do that but chose to anyway. As Diarmaid MacCulloch said in his video, voting for the covenant out of loyalty to the ABC "seems to me to be the feeblest argument of all". He's right.
Lapin, only 5 more votes against are needed to defeat the covenant. A tie means the covenant goes down and can't be introduced again until a new General Synod is elected five years from now.
So does anyone have predictions on how the remaining dioceses would each vote? The 17 remaining dioceses could all be inclined towards the covenant.
ReplyDeleteErp, Pluralist guesses but except for one, does not name names.
ReplyDelete...I can imagine three more obvious noes and about the same yesses. Others will predict better. I can hardly see Lincoln voting for....