Sometimes this blog writes itself with little or no help from me - with words from my virtual friends and visitors. To understand this post, you may want to do a little homework by refreshing your memory of My Conversation With Bishop Katharine and the comments to that post. Or, again, you may not.
mary clara said...
Mimi, thanks for performing this vital public service. You really put yourself on the line for all of us.
I bet Padre Mickey wears pants every day just so he won't have to shave his legs. 'Cause that would take up valuable time and he gots so many people to minister to and and care for in his wonderful parroquia, plus the Friday Night Red Mister Peanut Bank and Gallito Mescalito show and his daily blogging responsibilities to keep up with.
Maybe if I quit shaving my legs I would have time to start my own blog. But I confess I love the feeling of my smooth legs.
The playful interest in our PB’s wardrobe is a reflection of our soul speculating on deeper matters and longing for wholeness. I mentioned the two cosmological principles of changelessness and change, which we associate with masculine and feminine respectively. There is also the old idea that the soul has two aspects, one that changes and one that remains ever the same. One is like the sun, the other like the moon. Traditionally, male priests and bishops (in their uniforms) followed the solar model of the God who is 'the same yesterday, today and tomorrow'. That leaves the lunar principle of change and variation without a human embodiment; it is expressed instead in the beautiful vestments and the liturgy and in the turning of the liturgical year (which combines elements of the old lunar calendar with the solar).
The Church has long been a refuge for men who love lace and parades and beautiful table services. In other words, androgyny has been there all along. But now we have a tall, confident female person heading our Church, wearing the (male)uniform. It is natural for us to wonder whether she is allowed, without reservation, to bring 'the feminine' with her. To me she seems very much a woman and quite at home with herself in her role. There's a dame inside that uniform (hence MadPriest's nickname for her, Katharine Zeta Schori!). She is not an imitation male. Our fantasies of seeing her in silks and laces (or at least a tailored skirt), our wonderings about these little details of her bodily and aesthetic life, show our own love of the feminine and our wish that it be given its true dignity and included in the blessing. Ultimately, I don't think it is overstating the matter to say that the question about skirts has to do with the possibility of the union of opposites in the soul -- and in the Church.
Isn't it funny that this clothes business matters enuf even to joke about. But the fact is, I think PB Katharine is a good-looking woman and would enjoy seeing her in a pretty dress or a well-tailored skirt suit, just for the sheer variety of it. I think the secret is that women have been given beauty and variety as part of our turf. We have a long cultural history of being the ones who display for the benefit of the human race the whole spectrum of color, pattern, shape, movement, texture, aroma, and so on, not just as personal expression or a statement of family dignity, respectability or wealth (consumerism), but because we all need the soul-nourishment of seeing and smelling beauty. It's accepted that men may (and even should) look virtually the same from day to day, but we want women to embody variation and change -- the two cosmic principles. Bishops, however, are like military officers: they wear uniforms while on duty. Which means we have to endure the frustration of not getting to see PB Katharine Zeta Schori in glam duds. This is one of the little conundrums of change in the church. We finally got women priests and bishops, but the uniform (which was built on masculine principles) is still the same except for minor alterations in proportions. Thank goodness for vestments, which give clergy of both genders a chance to take part in the ceremonies of beauty!
I personally love clothes and shoes, but it's gotta be comfortable, and that mostly means pants, or skirts that work with comfortable sandals or boots. So I wouldn't wish the pantyhose obligation on anybody, especially my PB. Maybe what we could do is develop a PBKJS paper doll that could be dressed up in her bishop uniform but also in civvies! She is tall and could really wear designer clothes, I would think. Or, why not a Presiding Bishop Barbie, with a complete wardrobe from mitres to nighties? Now there is a project to keep some of us out of trouble for awhile, take our minds off schism and apostasy, etc.
Anyhow, put me down as a charter member of the We Wear the Pants Club. And PBKJS should be the Number One Honorary Member.
I am humbled and awed by Mary Clara's contribution because she widens the discussion beyond Bishop Katharine's clothes, like the effects of a water drop in a pond, to encompass weighty and serious matters of attitudes and traditions in the church. See how she waxes on the soul, cosmic principles, androgyny, aesthetics, and the like. And I learned that discussion of skirts is, indeed, not trivia, but vital to the polity of our church life.
At Mary Clara's suggestion, we combined two comments of hers to very good effect, I believe.
Excellent, Mary Clara, excellent. Thank you.
Check out Father Jake's place for Harry's description of dinner with ++Katharine. No mention of clothing tho.
ReplyDeleteSo cool people read and post on yer blog, too, huh? Good to know; it's a reason to come back.
ReplyDeletePiskie, thanks for that link. What beautiful writing!
ReplyDeleteJohnieb, did you leave because cool people don't read and post here? Surely you're quite wrong about that. I won't claim coolness for myself, but I will defend my visitors to the death for their coolness.
Well, that Mary Clara sure has me pegged (and at one time my pants were pegged)! Not shaving my legs is the main reason I wear pants, that and because my mother told me I must wear pants and I always do what my mother says, ask anyone in my family!
ReplyDeleteAn excellent post by Mary Clara.
I'll bet the good Padre would look good in a kilt tho, even with unshorn legs. (tee hee)
ReplyDeleteThis is marvelous, Mary Clara (and belated thanks, Mimi, for your account of your meeting -- a perfectly sensible question and one which probably set you apart from the crowd -- in a good way -- but it's especially delightful juxtaposed to Harry's sea monster -- both of you struggling with what to say as an opener).
ReplyDeleteI'll have to ponder Mary Clara's remarks further -- the larger points are well worth considering -- but for now, as for the details, I'm wondering if we didn't already see ++Katharine fully feminine and blessed as such at her installation. Recall her designer vestments, strikingly both female and feminine.
But I'm wondering about the daily uniform thing. I just double-checked and ++Katharine is only a few months younger than me. I remember (as no doubt Mimi does) when girls and women had no choice but to wear skirts and dresses. It wasn't until my jr. year in h.s. that we were allowed to wear pants to school (and that only incidental result of a court case filed against the school board to abolish the dress code -- long hair and blue jeans for boys being the crux of it, but the rules for girls fell aside along with them).
Wearing pants -- starting with jeans -- was not considered taking on male dress but rather liberating women from being compelled to satisfy men's ideas of what was feminine (and therefore) proper. To get to wear clothes that did not scream woman-sex-fashion-money-status felt truly liberating, especially for school or work when one wanted to look and be something other than an object of male desire or a thing to flirt with. Dresses and skirts became something to wear for fun, at times and places where one wanted to play and have fun, color and fabric and swish chosen to reflect one's personality and perhaps one's sexuality.
If I were ++Katharine I would much prefer to wear what she does for "business" because I would view it as me staking out my right to enjoy tailored, unisex clothing and enjoy comfort and simplicity the same as the men. That's not necessarily suppressing one's femininity or individuality -- arguably it can do the opposite.
Also, the notion of what is "feminine" can cut different ways, as well. On the one hand, it can be identified with a non-patriarchal world view, creative, nurturing, etc. On the other, it also can be painted in terms of hetero-sexuality, either a woman's expression of such an orientationm, a desire to satisfy or titilate hetero males, or simply to stake out one's socio-economic status by exhibiting expensive, colorful, well-constructed clothing.
So, while I certainly would hope that the ++PB's wardrobe does not convey to people the notion that she must look and act like a man to be in the job or do its business, I think the reality of the reasons why any of us choose one style of dress over another is very complex, as are the reactions of those around us. As someone who lives in t-shirts and jeans and no makeup much of the time (much to the horror of parishioners at a former super-suburban church -- how dare I go to the grocery store in a hurry without getting dressed up, especially me the rector's wife), but loves to dress up when I can and play with Laura Hutton's makeup, I find myself often counter to what many people expect of me. Of course, being a child of the '60's, I kind of like it that way. I don't know that ++Katharine feels the same, but I strongly suspect that she's very much her own woman.
So much for my fly-by brief comments. Hope some of it made some sense.
Perhaps Padre would appreciate having a bit of variety to choose from in his dress. We could start a collection to buy a kilt for him. What do you think? We'd have to get his size. Maybe the Lovely Mona would help us with that.
ReplyDeleteRecall her designer vestments, strikingly both female and feminine.
Recall? I recall them from New Orleans. She wore them for the service I attended. They are just as lovely up close, if not more so.
Mimi, thanks for doing me the honor of posting my comments. I think I steered you wrong about the order of the paragraphs, but never mind, I think everybody got the gist. Klady, I like your reflections which help to fill out the complex picture of women and clothing in our time. Yes, Bishop Katharine is enjoying the freedom of wearing pants, exercising the right to be comfortable, move freely and get on with the job. She is very much herself and very much a woman in her bishop duds. And I like her like that.
ReplyDeleteI guess the point is that what we all wear is a very complicated matter involving the interplay of fantasy, art, gender, economics and practicality.
Mary Clara, I think it reads well just as you suggested.
ReplyDeleteI liked your comment at Tobias' site on marriage and partnerships and expectations - many unrealistic - that we bring into our relationships.
Now that I know that you are a psychotherapist, I will be mindful that you're psyching me out by my every word. ;o)
I have to work up my courage to post at Tobias' place, because the others seem to know much more than I do.
Mimi, relax, I don't come here to analyze you (I don't even try to psych out MadPriest, who is officially mad), but if I did I would have to declare you a pillar of sanity. And coolness.
ReplyDeleteI've posted some further remarks at Tobias's in connection with his latest instalment, where you also have weighed in with a very germane and articulate comment.
Mary Clara, I know you don't care to be the therapist-on-duty 24/7. I'm really not worried. Crazy is as crazy does, and I've done my share of craziness.
ReplyDeleteYour comment is not up yet at Tobias' site. I'll look for it tomorrow.