Monday, January 4, 2010

"they had no intention...."

Last March, three American evangelical Christians, whose teachings about “curing” homosexuals have been widely discredited in the United States, arrived here in Uganda’s capital to give a series of talks.

The theme of the event, according to Stephen Langa, its Ugandan organizer, was “the gay agenda — that whole hidden and dark agenda” — and the threat homosexuals posed to Bible-based values and the traditional African family.

For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior.

Where to start with this one! You teach about the evils of "that whole hidden and dark agenda", and "how gay men often sodomized teenage boys" then you're shocked at the results of spreading such lies and vitriol. Give me a break, you hypocrites!

The three Americans who spoke at the conference — Scott Lively, a missionary who has written several books against homosexuality, including “7 Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child”; Caleb Lee Brundidge, a self-described former gay man who leads “healing seminars”; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus International, whose mission is “mobilizing the body of Christ to minister grace and truth to a world impacted by homosexuality” — are now trying to distance themselves from the bill.

“I feel duped,” Mr. Schmierer said, arguing that he had been invited to speak on “parenting skills” for families with gay children. He acknowledged telling audiences how homosexuals could be converted into heterosexuals, but he said he had no idea some Ugandans were contemplating the death penalty for homosexuality.

“That’s horrible, absolutely horrible,” he said. “Some of the nicest people I have ever met are gay people.”

Oh my! Mr. Schmierer feels duped. And he uses the old "some of my best friends are gay" defense to justify his abusive teachings on gay people that enable a push for draconian laws against gays in Uganda. Mr. Schmierer, you and your co-conspirators in the hateful teaching programs make me want to vomit.

Here is one result of the promulgation of your type of teaching:

“Now we really have to go undercover,” said Stosh Mugisha, a gay rights activist who said she was pinned down in a guava orchard and raped by a farmhand who wanted to cure her of her attraction to girls. She said that she was impregnated and infected with H.I.V., but that her grandmother’s reaction was simply, “ ‘You are too stubborn.’”

And you, of course, will say that this is "horrible, absolutely horrible". You "had no intention", you "feel duped". Ah, but your teaching programs make you and your cohorts complicit, Mr. Schmierer.

And make no mistake: the leadership in the US was complicit. How shameful that praising and giving money to support Uganda's "family values" and abstinence only programs were done in our name.

During the Bush administration, American officials praised Uganda’s family-values policies and steered millions of dollars into abstinence programs.

From the New York Times.

H/T to Torey Lightcap at The Lead and to Lionel Deimel in the comments for the link to the NYT article.

UPDATE: Andrew Sullivan posts his commentary on the article in the NYT.

Thanks to Wade for the link.

16 comments:

  1. "no intention" my brass hat. What they mean is someone mentioned to them that the Human Rights Tribunal can indite for incitement.

    FWIW
    jimB

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  2. Sounds like "beaters" - who are sorry only for getting caught - not for the damage they wreak.

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  3. No one could have expected their lectures and programs to fan Gay Hate in Uganda. No one!

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  4. Yes, the leaders are shocked that they got caught.

    Padre! I completely forgot "No one could have expected..."! Thanks for the reminder.

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  5. Yeah, I found the comment that Mr. Schmierer knows some "nice" mes, and he is so "horrified" by the outgrowth of his teaching to be so disingenuous. This is what he, and the rest of them, want to happen here.

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  6. If folks like this would simply concentrate on the actual teachings of Christ instead of their own hyperactive homophobia, the world would be a much better place. They've got hold of the wrong kind of "conversion" -- and need to work on their own hearts. God have mercy!

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  7. I want hatemongers held accountable. Exposed in every forum. They cannot preach their bigotry and expect no one to be harmed. They are not that stupid. They are culpable, or as Megaphone Mark Slackmeyer in Doonesbury used to say, "Guilty, guilty, guilty!"

    Granted they are pathetically fear-driven, for which, as Tobias writes, God have mercy.

    But God have mercy on the victims first and then the perps.

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  8. The faux outrage of the leaders who gave the talks made me quite angry. I could have addressed other passages in the article, but I decided I'd best quit.

    Andrew Sullivan addresses Scott Lively's and Caleb Brundidge's present attempts to "distance themselves from the bill" in his post.

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  9. Yes, I ¨told you so¨ (I´ve been disgusted with this ensemble of dangerous religious people for a very long time, sorry, I wish I wasn´t)...I´ve been covering the play by play of this orchestrated religious and political ¨witch hunt¨ in Uganda for far more than a year at my blog.

    I almost always find myself blogging on sickening end game solution towards LGBT GENOCIDE in Uganda (only recently did Orombi say the C of Uganda didn´t approve of mudering ¨gays¨).

    I find the origins of slandering contemporary LGBT Christians (Uganda is mostly a Christian country) goes back much further, see Orombi´s words of hate, than the ¨trio¨ of American extremists religious ¨witness¨ visitors at the fear/hate-mongering ¨conference¨ last year in March...I think Orombi helped in a very large degree by setting the stage for ¨demonizing¨ Gay Anglicans and others in Uganda in Kampala...afterall, he preaches his own righteousness ONLY!

    In my opinion, +Orombi and his HOB´s strongly set the abomination STANDARD of LGBT Anglicans/others in Uganda. He attempted ¨shoring up¨ the ministry of ¨opportunity¨ and The Archbishop of Uganda and his attempted anti-LGBT ¨parish takeovers¨ at TEC are ¨pots of gold¨ (by his own admitting of conservative contributions and rejection of TEC funds). There were many distractions from stopping ¨human/child sacrifices,¨ civil war and overall corruption at levels of Ugandan Government.

    Trying to make sense of persecuting, shaming and blaming LGBT Episcopalians and Anglicans throughout the Anglican Communion has been a NEEDED, and popular support devise for clergy that degrade LGBT fellow human beings at Church.

    Just like the deadly preaching by Rt. Rev. Dapo Asaju of reasonless hatred against LGBT Christians...¨[Homosexuality] is a worldwide phenomenon and it is there in every church...¨ he Orombi and Akinola aren´t finished trying to spread dangerous religious hatred and lies wherever they go.

    http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/anglican_communion/more_idolatrous_rhetoric_from_1.html#more

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  10. I thought these folks were into Biblical literalism. What ever happened to "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour?" Oh, I guess they don't consider gays to be their neighbours--sort of like those despicable Samaritans.

    Bill Ghrist

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  11. Leo, I know that you've been writing about the "Christian" leaders in Uganda for a long time. What angered me in this particular article is the outrageously hypercritical response of the three Americans who went to Uganda to stir up a whole mess of trouble and now act surprised at the results.

    Bill, I'm left to wonder if the leaders of the Anglican churches in Uganda and Nigeria and their American enablers ever actually read the Gospel section of the Bible at all.

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  12. I throw a molotov cocktail into a house, but I never intended it to actually start a fire, so I'm not guilty! Why, those awful people who sold me the gasoline and who manufactured the bottle and cloth, how dare they! I feel duped!

    I've always said that the biggest problem with fundamentalists is that they have never grown up. It's always someone else's fault, especially God, who wrote it all down so that the fundies were "just following orders."

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  13. Are these guys in any way accountable in law?

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  14. DP, I don't know. My guess is that these guys will not be held accountable by the law. Of course, I could be wrong.

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  15. And so I want to say to the folks up the street who are part of ACNA, you are tied to this. Blood will be on your hands, too.

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