Dexter Filkins in a blog post in The New Yorker:
For many months, the Obama and Maliki governments talked about keeping a residual force of American troops in Iraq, which would act largely to train Iraq’s Army and to provide intelligence against Sunni insurgents. (It would almost certainly have been barred from fighting.) Those were important reasons to stay, but the most important went largely unstated: it was to continue to act as a restraint on Maliki’s sectarian impulses, at least until the Iraqi political system was strong enough to contain him on its own. The negotiations between Obama and Maliki fell apart, in no small measure because of a lack of engagement by the White House. Today,many Iraqis, including some close to Maliki, say that a small force of American soldiers—working in non-combat roles—would have provided a crucial stabilizing factor that is now Iraq. Sami al-Askari, a Maliki confidant, told me for my article this spring, “If you had a few hundred here, not even a few thousand, they would be coöperating with you, and theywould become your partners.” President Obama wanted the Americans to come home, and Maliki didn’t particularly want them to stay.
My comment in response to the post:
Dexter, years ago, I read your brilliant articles in the New York Times when you covered the Battle of Fallujah, and I sent you emails commending you for your courage and honesty in reporting on the battle. You answered my emails and we corresponded for a while. I know you know Iraq far better than I do and that you came to care for the welfare of the Iraqi people while you reported from their war-torn country.
Still, I am shocked and surprised that you blame Obama's "disengagement" from Iraq for part of the killing and chaos we see today. The president inherited a papered-over chaotic mess. The Bush/Cheney administration wrecked the country, and there was no way Obama could have fixed the situation. You'd have to make the case for me that a few hundred or even a few thousand US military left in the country would have made a difference.
You say:
Sami al-Askari, a Maliki confidant, told me for my article this spring, “If you had a few hundred here, not even a few thousand, they would be coöperating with you, and they would become your partners.”
Why would you take these words at face-value? Maliki wanted us out, and we wanted out, so a very strong case would have had to be made to both sides to keep our military there. Now it's all gone bad, and Maliki wants us back. As others have already said, Iraq is three countries which were grouped into one geographical mass by foreign powers, and the movement now is strongly toward break-up. I fail to understand how a small group of American military could make a difference, and I fail to see how the Obama administration is to blame.
When we send arms to Syria, we are not sure whom we are arming, nor are we certain where the arms will end up. The same will be true in Iraq, and we end up arming opposing forces in both countries.
I wondered where the war-mongering neo-cons, who are now nipping at Obama's heels, got their talking points, and I thought it was pure made-up let's-get Obama-at-any-cost talk because an election approaches, but, to my great disappointment, I see one answer in this blog post, alas.
Well-said, Mimi.
ReplyDeleteWhat's going on in Iraq (and Syria) is a tragedy, but it doesn't mean it's OUR tragedy. We can't MAKE peace over there, if they don't want it.
[And I think Joe Biden---pilloried as "always wrong on Iraq"---was actually RIGHT: the country should have been more-or-less divided, starting w/ an autonomous Kurdistan, and MoreSunni and MoreShia federated areas]
"...a small force of American soldiers--working in non-combat roles..." Right. And we all know where that would've led. As I remember it, Maliki refused to agree to SOFA and told us to leave. Obama did, and it was the right thing to do.
ReplyDeleteLast night, I heard we were sending a small force of 275 troops to protect the embassy in Iraq. The thin-entering wedge?
ReplyDeleteI hope not. I think President Obama has ruled out combat troops.
DeleteFor now, Bex. I hope Obama means what he says, but I am not confident.
DeleteThe whys of this whole mess are a carefully constructed distraction from the root issue no one talks about: it is the business of men to "prove" their manhood in war, "prove" their essential worth through the strength of conquest, and the business of war is a double win for that process - war is profitable for its suppliers (see: war profiteers, Halliburton, "W" telling a South American president that a nice little war would boost his economy), those who make their careers in conflict (military and journalistic) and those who profit from the clean-up afterward (jobs, jobs, jobs, people in caring for the wounded, rebuilding destroyed nations, writing solemn books condemning the whole enterprise, etc,). It's about money & power. Always has been. And those who promote war are bored and useless without one ... sociopaths, probably; adrenaline junkies, likely ... to them the sacrifice of a generation of young men (and now, directly, women - but women have always paid a horrible price for the wars men make, it just wasn't considered worthy of note) is nothing more than reducing the available competition for power and wealth. They call it sacrifice to make it sound holy, good, admirable, but it's just killing off the competition.
ReplyDeleteNo, we never should have invaded Iraq, but the phrase, "we had no business being there," isn't accurate - it was all about business, but not just the oil business, the business of bully aggression playing itself out one more time as "proof" of a narrow, ignorant "rightness" that is the plague of humankind.
Right at the moment, I feel rather hopeless about the situation, for the people in the Middle East and about US involvement, for I fear we will get sucked into bombing and possibly eventually troops on the ground. No matter how "surgical" the strikes, innocents will be killed.
ReplyDeleteRepublicans cry, "The debt! The Debt!" as an excuse for cutting social programs. Where will the money come from to involve our military once again in Iraq? Surely, there will be no agreement to raise taxes on the rich to pay the cost. The answer will be to increase the debt or cut safety net programs further.
As I recall, the Bush Admin ran the whole Iraq war "off book", never including it in the budget ... so now when the GOP whines about debt it's all about the poor people they expect to fight their wars to prove their "worth" as citizens.
DeleteI get the helpless feeling, but that's also exactly what a bully wants -- they want that feeling to push us into silence, to acquiescence ... go on being a thorn in the paw of the liars ... write on, everyone ... the arc of justice may bend slowly, but it bends, yes?
I hope so, Marthe. I think we can assume that whatever we do in Iraq will not be off the books this time around. That's about all I can say with confidence.
DeleteMimi, just now when I came to your blog from the sidebar link in mine, I suddenly was redirected to some kind of ad page. I quickly closed that and tried the link again, which worked normally the second time. Not sure if this is a malfunction on your blog or mine, but thought I should let you know.
ReplyDeleteRuss, thanks for letting me know. I just accessed my blog from my Feedly reader, and the link worked. Let me know if you continue to have trouble.
DeleteRuss, I believe I know what may have happened. A couple of days ago, I hit publish by mistake when my post on the House of Cards series was incomplete, so I reverted back to draft. The post remained in Feedly (and probably elsewhere) apparently forever. Then today, I finally published it, and the order of posts was messed up - if what I've written makes any sense.
DeleteGood points, Mimi. But I am daily feeling more and more cut off from both the media and our government. When you have wealth in power, you have a class crisis and I think that is where we are at now...sadly.
ReplyDeleteThee and me, talkandchatter. I feel so cut off from any say whatsoever in what is done in my name. It seems that ISIS is the worst of the worst, when even Al Qaeda disowns them, but I don't see how bombing, even the most precise and surgical bombing will make Iraq a better place, and innocents are certain to be killed if we try to weaken or eliminate ISIS.
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