Hi Mimi,This is good news, indeed.
Have come home from Christchurch Synod meeting. We had a vote on the Covenant. Passed by laity, DEFEATED by clergy... therefore DEFEATED by Christchurch New Zealand.
Thought I'd share the good news!
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Saturday, April 21, 2012
DIOCESE OF CHRISTCHURCH NZ DEFEATS ANGLICAN COVENANT
From a correspondent in Christchurch, New Zealand:
Saturday, March 31, 2012
'WHAT NEXT?" - ALAN PERRY
Canon Alan Perry of the Anglican Church of Canada ponders the next step for the churches of the Anglican Communion after the rejection of the Anglican Covenant by the Church of England. As the Episcopal Church in the US will meet in General Convention in July of this year and and will be addressing proposed resolutions concerning the covenant, Alan's post seems to me a helpful addition to preparatory material.
Whatever resolutions the Episcopal Church passes or does not pass, I fervently hope we will not spend "a lot" of time, effort, and money on such an inferior piece of work, especially now that the "mother" church has disposed of it.
Please don't stop with my short quote from Alan's post. Read it all.I don't know how much time, effort or money has been expended on the Anglican Covenant proposal, but I think it is safe to say “a lot”. And this proposal has distracted Anglicans to a significant degree from pursuing, both other avenues of building relationships, and our primary mission of living out the Gospel in our various contexts. Now that the project is stalled, perhaps irretrievably, in the Church of England, how much more time, energy and money should the rest of us be expending on this proposed Covenant?
What should those outside England do?
It's really up to each Church to decide how it's going to deal with the proposed Covenant, but I see four options at this point:
Continue with the process of considering and adopting the proposed Covenant; Continue to consider the Covenant, but adopt it conditionally such that an Act of Synod adopting the Covenant does not come into effect until the Church of England adopts it; Suspend the process of considering the Covenant until it is clear what the Church of England is going to do next; Adopt a resolution rejecting the Covenant.
Whatever resolutions the Episcopal Church passes or does not pass, I fervently hope we will not spend "a lot" of time, effort, and money on such an inferior piece of work, especially now that the "mother" church has disposed of it.
DIOCESE OF MANCHESTER REJECTS ANGLICAN COVENANT
From Paul at Not the Same Stream:
UPDATE: Percentages from Alan Perry:
Manchester Against
Bishops For: 1, Against: 2, Abstained: 0
Clergy For: 15, Against: 25, Abstained: - 0
Laity For: 12, Against: 23, Abstained: - 7
Summary
Dioceses for the Covenant to date: 15
Dioceses against the Covenant to date: 25
There are 4 dioceses yet to vote
Southwell and Nottingham 12 April (Thursday), Chichester on 21 April, Newcastle and York 28 April.
UPDATE: Percentages from Alan Perry:
With Manchester's figures, we now have:
Bishops: 77.4% for, 16.7% against, 6.0% abstentions
Clergy: 45.0% for, 50.9% against, 4.1% abstentions
Laity: 48.1% for, 47.0% against, 4.9% abstentions
Overall: 47.5% for, 48.0% against, 4.5% abstentions
Overall (clergy and laity only): 46.7% for, 48.8% against, 4.5%
abstentions
Friday, March 30, 2012
YES TO ANGLICAN COMMUNION
Commentary from the church press on the defeat of the Anglican Covenant in the Church of England.
Giles Fraser in the Church Times:
Also from the Church Times:
And it appears that Archbishop Rowan has given up on trying to resuscitate the covenant in the Church of England.
H/T to Simon Sarmiento at Thinking Anglicans for the links and to MadPriest for the cartoon.
Giles Fraser in the Church Times:
I WILL not disguise my joy at the death of the Anglican Covenant. And death it is — despite the fact that some people will inevitably try to give its corpse the kiss of life. The idea that the Church of England has given it so emphatic a thumbs-down, especially in the face of huge episcopal and archiepiscopal lobbying, is evidence of how unpopular the idea is in the pews.From the Church of Ireland Gazette:
Here, the majority of bishops have shown themselves to be completely out of touch with the centre of gravity of the Church of England. It is not that we do not care about our brothers and sisters in other parts of the Communion. It is simply that we want our Christian solidarity to be expressed through our Anglican heritage, our common baptism, and the development of friendships — and not through a treaty that can be haggled over by church politicians, the purpose of which was always to isolate those Churches that had a different view of sexual ethics.
The moral of the story has at least two dimensions. First, from a practical perspective, when faced with a divisive crisis, setting up a bureaucratic procedure that is going to take years to get anywhere, if it is to get anywhere at all, is hardly a good idea. If anyone thought that ‘buying time’ would allow the same-sex relationships imbroglio to subside, that was a very mistaken notion, and we in the Church of Ireland do need to take note of that as we face our own difficulties over the issue.That's our Lesley Crawley, Moderator of No Anglican Covenant Coalition, which is mentioned in the article.
Second, from a more conceptual perspective, we now know, as surely as we can know, that Anglicanism is set to remain a Communion of wholly autonomous Cchurches (sic), bound together by ‘bonds of affection’. It should be added, however, that such mutual affection is far from a weak ideal; it is, in fact, a considerable calling and it is surely true that at times we do have to work at loving one another. There has been talk about being in communion implying ‘interdependence’ and thus justifying central regulation, however light, but that interdependence argument is actually quite vague because everything in the world is interdependent and, from an ecclesiological perspective, all Christians of whatever denomination, in communion or out of communion, are interdependent. Thus, as Anglicans, we are all, across the globe, now challenged to ponder our affection for one another and, where it is waning, to seek to nurture it carefully and prayerfully.
Also from the Church Times:
Speaking on Monday, Dr Williams said: “This is, of course, a disappointing outcome for many of us in the Church of England and many more in the Communion. Unfortunately, the challenges the Covenant was meant to address will not go away just because people vote against it.Of course, we face challenges in the Communion, and we will have to work on relationships, just not through the vehicle of the covenant.
"We shall still have to work at vehicles for consultation and managing disagreement. And nothing should lessen the priority of sustaining relationships, especially with some of those smaller and vulnerable Churches for whom strong international links are so crucial.”
And it appears that Archbishop Rowan has given up on trying to resuscitate the covenant in the Church of England.
H/T to Simon Sarmiento at Thinking Anglicans for the links and to MadPriest for the cartoon.
Tuesday, November 8, 2011
RESOLUTION 26 DEFEATED IN MISSISSIPPI
From WWLTV:
Mississippi voters shot down a referendum Tuesday that would have effectively banned abortions in the state, rejecting an initiative that said life begins at conception.Yes! I was worried about this vote, but I'm pleased to see that the people of Mississippi voted the resolution down by a large margin.
The so-called personhood initiative was rejected by more than 55 percent of voters. If it had passed, it was virtually assured of drawing legal challenges because it conflicts with the Supreme Court's 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that established a legal right to abortion. Supporters of the initiative wanted to provoke a lawsuit to challenge the landmark ruling.
The measure divided the medical and religious communities in this Bible Belt state and caused some of the most ardent abortion opponents, including Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, to waver with their support.
Opponents said the measure could make birth control, such as the morning-after pill or the intrauterine device, illegal. It could also deter physicians from performing in vitro fertilization because they would fear criminal charges if an embryo doesn't survive.
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